ETERNAL TRUTHS

Subject: ETERNAL TRUTHS Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:08 pm

ETERNAL TRUTHS

* this is it
* there are no hidden meanings
* you can't get there from here, and besides, there's no place else to go
* we are already dying, and we will be dead for a long time
* nothing lasts
* there is no way of getting all you want
* you can't have anything unless you let go of it
* there is no particular reason why you lost out
on some things
* the world is not necessarily just!being good often does not pay off and there is no
compensation for misfortune
* you have a responsibility to do your best nonetheless
* it is a random universe to which we bring meaning
* you don't really control anything
* you can't make anyone love you
* no one is any stronger or weaker than anyone else
* everyone is, in his own way, vulnerable
* there are no great men
* if you have a hero, look again: you have diminished yourself in some way
* everyone lies, cheats, pretends(yes, you too, and most certainly i myself)
* all evil is potential vitality in need of transformation
* all of you is worth something, if you will only own it
* progress is an illusion
* evil can be displaced but never eradicated, as all problems
* yet it is necessary to keep on struggling toward solutions
* childhood is a nightmare
* but it is so very hard to be an on-your-own,
take-care-of-yourself-cause-there-is-no-one-else-to-do-it-for-you grown-up
* each of us is ultimately alone
* the most important thing, each man must do for himself
* love is not enough, but it sure helps
* we have only ourselves, and one another
* that may not be too much, but that's all there is
* how strange, that so often, it all seems worth it
* we must live within the ambiguity of partial freedom, partial power, and partial
knowledge
* all important decisions must be made on the basis of insufficient data
* yet we are responsible for everything we do
* you can run, but you can't hide
* it is most important to run out of scapegoats
* we must learn the power of living with our helplessness
* all of the significant battles are waged within the self
* you are free to do whatever you like
* you need only to face the consequences
* what do you know... for sure... anyway?
* learn to forgive yourself, again and again and again...

derived from Asian philosophies by
Sheldon B. Kopp

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:23 am

norms.....norms sang kabuhi...

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:32 pm

TONY_Wilson wrote:: ETERNAL TRUTHS

* it is a random universe to which we bring meaning

kindly expound.. coffee

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:47 pm

* you have a responsibility to do your best nonetheless

sad but true..

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:33 am

B wrote:

TONY_Wilson wrote:: ETERNAL TRUTHS

* it is a random universe to which we bring meaning

kindly expound.. coffee

I'll expound it later.. for now.. ma mafia wars ko anay kay dira akon random universe.. .... for now..hehehehe..

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:44 pm

^^^^kampyon!!!!!!!!!!!!! bwahahaahhaa lol!

sus.mapya mapya na naman? baw...hahaha..pati ah...go ah..go ah...expound muh gd kron ha? na intriga gd ko toh dan sang it is a random universe to which we bring meaning na statement..aw ah..heheh flower

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:46 am

^^.. hmmm.. nga ah.. intriga ka gid hao..??..hmm hmmmm.. hehehehe.. dali lang mapya ko annay.. kay daw may nag rob sa akon.. duklon ko lang..hehehe! bounce

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:37 pm

^^^hahaha..OT kana tony ay..sus.diin natong forum police man? tony, nagay pasaway. mangsita naman da kron ang forum police ay. OT na ta dan. OT. bwahaha lol!

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:49 pm

ay teh.. WAHAHAHA

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:54 pm

^^^haha..pati ah..teh teh..anu natong it is a random universe to which we bring meaning na inug expound nimu? heheh..go tony..go..hehe mml

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:56 am

ok..ari na...hehehe.. ehem ehem.. (clear ko anay throat ko).. "in My opinion".. hehehe..

pero tuuod.. I think ang pina ka simply nga mahambal ko about that line.. is that..kun diin subong, imo nga universe, imo sitaution, imo headspace..imo surroundings ,.. that's your universe.. "bringing meaning".. is .. I guess.. the way you influence or kung ano ang epekto sang mga actions mo sa current situation.. or .. kung ano imo epekto sa universe your in now.. I'm not really talking .. about the big picture .. I'm talking about sa imo lang .. your universe.. hehehe.. kay kun isipun mo .. kun eh upod mo tanan naton nga universe.. kung ano man da epekto naton sa kabilugon.. dira mo na makita .. ang tuod nga .. dako nga picture sang kabuhi.,.hehehe.. kag I guess.. subong.. ang universe ko .. mabugtaw.. mahampang kag magsagod sa bata ko..hehehe.. ma facebook.. ma kadto di sa forum kag mawork.. so I think.. tanan.. nga mameet ko or ma talk man online or sa forum man ni.,. part na sang universe.. ko.. and hopefully maka bring ko meaning.. or epekto sa ila.. or not.. which is ok.. coz my universe still continues to grow.. hehehe.. I know.. indi sa simply.. hehehe.. cheers

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:58 pm

^^ daw ma nosebleed man ta man..ahaha..poh mayu mayu..hehe

ah..daw ripples effect man gle..ayshee..aysheee..teehee flower

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:10 am

tumpak gid TONY.... Smile

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:44 am

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apply ka bala as volunteer para sa venus project...

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Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:11 pm

^^anu ang venus project? heee

ari pa guid tony..wan mor tym..hehe *kulit mode* heeeheee

we must live within the ambiguity of partial freedom, partial power, and partial
knowledge

heseh..expound beh please..hehe..tuod..i wanna know.. alien

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:46 pm

@spook .. venus project sa zeitgeist pre..hehehe.. budly.. na.. dako mga project.. kag as long nga. ang kalibutan gasalig sa current nga monetary nga systema.. sa pag barter or bakal.. daw.. budlay gid hambalan.. taho nga.. indi na kinhanlan ang kwarta.. kag maging one with mothernature na ta.. although.. daw nami isipun.. kag tani madayun pila kaadlaw..hehehe.. TANI GID!!!...

@b.., ang ina.. meaning.. tanan. kita.. naga pangabuhi sa kalibutan nga.. gamay lang nabala -an .. kag wala. gid true freedom... which is also ga apply sa partial power .. tanan.. subong.. may limitasyon.. although we can go over the limit.. pero.. what about the limit sa limit?.. asta sa din gid ang limit nga eh allow sang kalibutan..gahambal ka lang kis ah nga.. i'm over the limit.. pero sigurado.. ka nga nakita mo na ang llimitasyon?.. kag sigurado ka ayhan .nga ang nakita mo amo na an ang limitasyon?.. or ang nahimo mo or nabal an mo amo na ayhan??.. . I think amo na.. I guess.. pero.. as for now.. we must live on that.. but hopefully someday indi na.. mga kabataan naton kag apo. indi na tani..hehehehe

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:54 pm

^^^^yah..at times..need ta man limits..to prevent..anu ang term? anarchy? heee..
hmmm..sa imu beh tony, is freedom these days a privilege? or is it merely a right? hmmm Suspect

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:32 am

^^^For me siguro freedom is a right.. but.. this "dazee" .. well.. I don't know.. kun freedom gid man ni subong ang sa aton.. as long as their is a state, a law, a governement, money etc.. there is no real freedom..sorry to say!!...hehehehe

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:01 pm

for me, freedom is a privilige... because, para lng sa akon, freedom is, doing whatever you want, without getting in the way of others...

in other words, kun mangita ka nobya, indi mo pag kwaon ang nobya sang iban... hehe..

i'm interested about that Zeitgeist nga na... Smile

for the Venus Project, what is money haw?? ang paper money na bla nga ara sa bulsa ta subong, may value gid na?? or it is just a representation of wealth???

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:11 am

yeap.. money.. well.. klunmatanaw ka addendum nga zeitgeist.. money = slavery.. because money represents debt.. is like an I owe you note.. pero.. may numbers lang.. sa addendum.. ang current nga monetary system.. or ang systema sa pag himo nila sang dollars.. well. .. daw dina himo nila.. out of thin air.. bastya.. watch the zeigeist 1 and the zeigeist 2 addendum.. you'll be glad you did.. it's an eye opener..

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:23 am

A Founding Father of Freedom: Mikhail Bakunin

"Revolutionary Socialists believe that there is much more of practical reason and intelligence in the instinctive aspirations and real needs of the masses of people than in the profound minds of all these learned doctors and self-appointed tutors of humanity, who, having before them the sorry examples of so many abortive attempts to make humanity happy, still intend to keep on working in the same direction. But revolutionary Socialists believe, on the contrary, that humanity has permitted itself to be ruled for a long time, much too long, and that the source of its misfortune lies not in this nor in any other form of government but in the principle and the very existence of the government, whatever its nature may be.”

great sites and sources:
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/bakunin/index.htm
http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/bakunin/index.htm

Subject: Re: ETERNAL TRUTHS Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:59 am

and that the source of its misfortune lies not in this nor in any other form of government but in the principle and the very existence of the government, whatever its nature may be

hhmm... what if, the government is removed... what will happen now?? just like in revolutions... people revolt to oust a government, or to be free... someone needs to lead that revolution... now, the government is "dead", a modern day andres bonifacio kicked its fat arse... the people are now free, then they ask this question... "ma ano na ta?? modern bonifacio, ma ano na ta? ha? ha? ha? ma ano na ta?? kulit kami? ha?? ha boni?!" then boni will say, "follow me, everything is alright! i'll be the one to tuck you in at night..."

VOILA!!! may form of government naman da... and Modern Bonifacio is the new effin presiduhnt!

i think... Smile